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Pick a Day, Pick a Place, and Don't Hold a Vote

Most dad groups die by week six, and the group text usually does the killing. Fix the time, fix the place, and let two guys be enough.

By Sam Ortiz · Dads & Family5 min read
Pick a Day, Pick a Place, and Don't Hold a Vote

Quick answer: Invite three or four dads personally, not by mass text. Pick one day, one time and one place, and don't take a poll. Meet weekly for ninety minutes or less. The meeting happens if two people show up.

Why the group text kills it

Every dad group starts the same way. Somebody says, "We should get together." Six guys say, "Definitely." Somebody starts a group text and asks what night works.

That text is where the group dies.

Six dads with six calendars will never agree on a night. Every proposal gets three thumbs-up and two "can't do Wednesdays." So you settle on "whenever works," and "whenever" is a day that never comes.

You don't need consensus. You need a decision. Make it yourself, announce it, and let the guys who fit the slot come. The ones who don't fit will tell you, and you can build a second group for them later.

Pick the slot your life can survive

You're choosing a slot you can hold for a year, so be honest about your own week. Three that work for dads:

  • Early weekday morning, 6:00 to 7:15. Nobody's boss, kid or wife has claimed that hour yet. The cost is that you have to actually get up.
  • Saturday morning, kids welcome. Say 8:00 to 9:30 at a park pavilion. The dads talk while the kids run around. The cost is that your conversation gets interrupted every four minutes.
  • A weeknight after bedtime, 8:00 to 9:30. Easy to say yes to. The catch is that tired dads cancel on themselves, so the guy who skips Thursday because he's beat will skip every Thursday.

The early morning slot has one quiet advantage. Fewer things compete with it. Almost nothing at 6:15 on a Tuesday can outrank your group except a sick kid.

Whichever you pick, put it in writing as a fact. "We meet Tuesdays at 6:15 at the diner on Route 9" is an invitation. "What if we tried Tuesdays?" is a negotiation.

Don't rotate the location

Rotating houses sounds generous and fair. It's a trap. Every week somebody has to look up an address, somebody's wife has to deal with a house full of guys, and one dad has to clean for company. By the fourth rotation, the guy with the small apartment is mortified and the guy with the big garage is tired of hosting.

Use one fixed spot. A booth at a diner works, as long as you tip like you mean it, since you're occupying a table for ninety minutes. A garage with a coffee maker works. A park pavilion works for as long as the weather does.

The test is simple. Can a new guy find it without texting anybody? If not, simplify.

Give them something to do with their hands

Men tend to talk best shoulder to shoulder, not face to face. Sitting in a circle and "sharing" is a hard sell to a guy who's never done it, and most of the dads you want will quietly pass on that.

So have a project on the table. Some options:

  • Rebuild a set of porch steps for a widow down the street.
  • Work through one chapter of a book together, a chapter a week.
  • Do a workout, then eat.
  • Fix bikes for a neighborhood kid drive.
  • Cook one real meal together on a grill and eat it.

The project is the reason to show up. The conversation is what happens while you're busy. If you've coached a team before, you already know how this works, and what nobody tells you about coaching your first youth team covers a lot of the same ground about holding a group together.

Run it like a meeting that respects time

Ninety minutes, hard stop. Dads have a wife and kids at home and a job to get to. Respect the clock and they'll respect the group.

A loose format keeps it from drifting. Go around once with two questions: What's one thing that went right this week? What's one thing you're stuck on? Give each man about three minutes. Then do the project, or the book, or the meal.

Say it out loud in the first meeting: what's said at the table stays at the table. And one rule about wives, because it needs saying. Nobody trashes his wife in that room. Ask for advice, sure. Run her down, no. The group is there to make you a better husband, not to give you an audience for your grievances. If a dad turns every week into a complaint session, pull him aside, kindly, and say so. You're serving the whole group by holding that line. You don't have to be harsh. You do have to say it.

Make two guys enough

This is the rule that saves it.

Around week three, something will go wrong. Two guys have a conflict, one has a sick kid, and the weather is awful. Your attendance drops to two. This is the moment most groups quietly vote themselves out of existence.

Decide in advance that two is a meeting. Open the diner booth, order coffee, and hold it anyway. The two guys who come get a good conversation, and they remember who showed up. The no-shows learn the group runs without them, and the group is stronger for it.

Also, never cancel by text. Cancel only for named holidays, announced at least a week ahead, and you'll keep the habit alive.

Ask people one at a time

Your first four should be men you already know a little: a dad from the sideline, a guy from work, the neighbor whose name you finally learned (if you haven't, start with learning your neighbors' names before you need them). Ask each one face to face.

Say something like: "I'm starting a dad group. Tuesdays, 6:15, Route 9 diner, ninety minutes, we do one thing a week and then go to work. You in?"

That's specific, it's short, and it gives him something concrete to say yes or no to. Don't say "let me know if you're interested." That phrase gets a polite "sounds great" and a no-show, and there's a better way to make an offer like that.

Some guys will say no. Thank them, and don't push. Ask somebody else.

Leave the place better than you found it

The habits that keep a group going are small. Show up ten minutes early and put the chairs out. Bring the coffee, and take a turn bringing donuts. Stay and stack the chairs, wipe the table, and carry out the trash, even if the table was a mess when you got there. Pay your share and then a little more.

That's a group people are glad to belong to, and the diner owner will be glad to see you again.

A dad group that meets every week for two years doesn't need a mission statement. It needs a man who's willing to be standing there turning the key in the door at 6:00 a.m. on a cold Tuesday. Be that man. Eventually, somebody will thank you for it, probably a kid, probably years from now, probably without knowing exactly why.

Sam Ortiz

Dads & Family

Father of three. Writes about presence, discipline and the long game, without pretending any of it's tidy.

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